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STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2017 20:13
by Crusherz
I know the last stumbles report was trashed, but now I recorded some 100% clear retail videos that show difference between retail and notaion stumble mechanic.

BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEOS PLEASE READ:
As far as I understood, SOME SKILLS ARE WORKING ALMOST FINE AFTER THE STUMBLE, BUT THE OTHERS AREN'T, SO BE CAREFUL IF YOU DECIDE TO RECHECK MY EVIDENCE. ALL skills were spammed with SAME SPEED after the stumble, and you can see it if you pay attention to skill icons:
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You can see on this screenshot extra black stripes on the edges of the sleeping storm skill, which indicates that it is pressed (spammed very fast).

Finally, here are the videos:

1. CURSE OF ROOTS SPAMMED AFTER STUMBLE

Notaion:

Retail:


2. SLEEPING STORM SPAMMED AFTER STUMBLE

Notaion:

Retail:


These videos show that on notaion there is a delay between stumble and spammed skill, while on retail the skill cast begins right after the stumble debuff duration is over.



Torial wrote:Torial comes for the rescue!

Stumbles work exactly same as they do on retail, while in the animation of getting up, wither it's retail or not aion, you can use an insta skill (I partly believe the skill should be usable while moving too for it to work) and it will cancel the get up animation, other wise you're stuck in animation and can't move till the end, so the trick i use on my sorc is whenever i'm stumbled, i spam Robe of Flames so when im getting up it cancels it and I can move freely again.

Damn, I miss these huehue.


Thanks for the information bro, but I'm talking casting skills above all. Although I'm not sure if there isn't a bug with some instant skills, just don't have time to test it.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2017 20:22
by Bestsorcru
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Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2017 22:35
by Torial
ok this is a good report, I didn't know you can't do it with cast skills on not aion, so thats cool (y)

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 08 Apr 2017 02:16
by Crusherz
I forgot to mention that one of possible reasons for this bug is auto switching player's combat mode off (for example closing sorcerer's spellbook) as soon as he get stumbled, which seems to not happen on retail. However I'm sure that's not the only cause for delay, because its duration is much longer than the duration of opening spellbook.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 08 Apr 2017 18:10
by Miz
I have same delay on my templar after stumble i agree ++++++

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2017 13:52
by Harboe
I have fixed the weapon sheathing thing (was caused by the hotfix that prevented people from flying away in glide if they initiated glide with perfect timing). However, it didn't affect this bug whatsoever.

I'm kinda at a loss here and need to do a retail dump to get any further.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2017 20:12
by Crusherz
Harboe wrote:hotfix that prevented people from flying away in glide if they initiated glide with perfect timing

Do you mean bug like this but with stumbles? https://youtu.be/XgS9RcYPnA0?t=10s Happens on retail too.

Harboe wrote:I'm kinda at a loss here and need to do a retail dump to get any further.

Is there anything we can do to help you fix this bug?

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2017 21:01
by Harboe
I am able to do the retail dump myself, just need some time to do it.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 27 Oct 2017 16:43
by Maxmeister
This bug is even worse for the assassin.

After icon of stumble goes out, still can't do anything for like 1-2s.
I hope this is going to be fixed as soon as possible.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 27 Oct 2017 17:37
by Harboe
I already investigated this bug and wasn't able to fix it. I wouldn't expect a resolution any time soon.

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 27 Oct 2017 17:56
by Zze
Maxmeister wrote:This bug is even worse for the assassin.

After icon of stumble goes out, still can't do anything for like 1-2s.
I hope this is going to be fixed as soon as possible.


If you mean that you are stuck into the rise animation after a KD ,you can cancel the rise animation with the apply poison buff or any other buff or instant skills like beatleap ,fos,ambush etc

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2017 07:14
by Satanx
I think there's a general animation issue with notaion that's been swept under the rug, or simply never looked at. In retail aion anytime you use a pot (healing pot) in a fight, so long as your not stunned it will instantly go off. In notaion it will delay for if you're in the middle of a skill/animation, so you have to keep spamming it to go off.

There's alot of ways this works negatively, and slows down reaction time, if the developers were able to fix this animation error it would seriously improve the quality of the playing...

Re: STUMBLES AGAIN (NOW WITH 100% PROOFS) ULTIMATE REPORT

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2017 09:26
by Harboe
Please don't post unrelated things in a bug report. If you wish to report a bug, make a separate bug report.