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bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 18:00

hello,im not here to complain about the over powered heals of the bard, that heals, almost, as much as a cleric does but with more dmg, silence and ccs. neither about their dispells, with low cd and that can dispell any cc without a chance of failing, if the bard is skilled; or if its using an ahk script(wink wink). not even about the cc resist that makes them avoid ccs even if they are silenced/shocked or if they fuck up, not exactly at least. the cc resist doesnt count as 1 buff, but as 7 buffs, it has low cd and for the time you dispelled it bard got a new one up almost everytime. isnt it possible to make it count as 1 single buf, just like silence resist?
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Furuya98 » 26 Dec 2018 18:07

Don't worry, NC got you.

But next patch. And only if you're SM/BD yourself.

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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 18:13

"melody of discipline: easier to remove"what does that even mean? melody of discipline counts as 1 buff already, how can u make it easier to remove? lol. also im talking about 6.2 tho.( chanter will get more balanced in next patch too, but they nerfed it cause it was insane in 6.2.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Furuya98 » 26 Dec 2018 18:16

You need multiple debuff to remove these buffs atm (at least on retail, I don't play classes that can debuff on Not so I can't confirm if it's working the same way).
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 18:19

it simple, discipline counts as 1 buff, its normal. courage counts as 7 buffs so you need many dispells to it
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Furuya98 » 26 Dec 2018 18:22

nemen wrote:it simple, discipline counts as 1 buff, its normal. courage counts as 7 buffs so you need many dispells to it


Except if !Aion has a custom balance about that, it is not the case. Both should have the same "HP" (and it's either 4 or 7 in this version, I'm not sure).

But I'm not quite sure if it's a good idea to add nerf on these.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 18:27

ummmmmmm, i quit retaIl in 4.9 but as i remember it was the same there too, silence resist was easy to dispell fear nope.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Furuya98 » 26 Dec 2018 18:29

nemen wrote:ummmmmmm, i quit retaIl in 4.9 but as i remember it was the same there too, silence resist was easy to dispell fear nope.


Then, if it's the case, it doesn't work like Retail about these 2 buffs.

Although, I don't see why the one with Fear/Mez Resist would not be the one nerfed as BD have enough dispell to remove it.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 18:52

yea, indeed,its almost impossible to fear a bard with a script that detects fear. the only way is to fear while hes silenced/stunlocked after making the cler wasting ripple, and its so annoying losing after all of that because he resisted and you cant dispell that rng buff.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Furuya98 » 26 Dec 2018 19:08

I agree on the RNG side. Unlike Unwavering Devotion, where we have a 30s window, these buff may be permanent.

However, I do feel it may be harsh for BD since they're still weak when they can't heal correctly. 7.0 included a Magic Attack penality on Healing Mode, and a Healing Boost penality on Magic Boost Mode; perhaps this nerf may be enough when we'll get it, but until then...
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 19:25

well, right now, bard is cleric on steroids and idm that game machanics changed. just,at least, let us able to remove this rng thing, so we can do something(course im talking to harb).-.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Seia » 26 Dec 2018 20:07

Bard get nerf and nerf on all patck now u_u
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby nemen » 26 Dec 2018 20:27

you play with silence resist anyway
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby puss » 12 Jan 2019 21:11

I want to complain as well. It will forever until those official balance changes. NEED TO ACT NOW ! Nerf bard resists, to be able at least withstand at battle.
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Re: bard's fear resist/sleep resist

Postby Ecto » 13 Jan 2019 14:15

To the SMs in this thread, don't forget to consider the utterly ridiculous advantage you have over certain classes too, you're still much more of a threat than a bard in group pvp. I've been running a lot of dredgions recently and I can count on one hand the number of times a team without an SM beat a team with an SM.

I am not saying that bard are not op. I am only saying do remember the rock paper scissors nature of game :)
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